If you observe the wheels, you'll see that each has a notch in it called a 'gate'. Somewhere along the circumference of the wheels is a bar called a 'fence' that is capable of dropping in to the notch if and only if all of the wheels have the gates lined up directly under the fence.
DO NOT CLOSE THE DOOR!!! Having a helper or a mirror to observe will be useful. Turn the dial several times in one direction, make a note if left or right, there's a 50% chance you're starting the correct way. Then stop and turn it in the other direction. Observe that only one wheel connected directly to the dial will turn.
Keep turning and you'll see the next wheel 'pick up' and begin to turn. Keep going until all of the wheels are turning. Stop when the LAST wheel that picked up has its gate directly under the fence. Write down the number on the dial. Turn the dial in the other direction. You'll see that the same thing happens with the wheels.
Count the number of turns until the NEXT-TO-LAST wheel picks up. Stop when the NEXT-TO-LAST wheel to pick up has its gate directly under the fence. Write down the number of turns needed and the number on the dial. Then reverse direction again, keep going until the same thing happens with the next wheel. Again write down the number of turns and the number on the dial.
Keep going until all gates are directly under the fence. If the fence doesn't drop in, try turning the handle to see if it does. If there's a little butterfly gizmo in the center of the dial, turn back to zero and try to twist it, see if the fence drops in. If all of that fails, then start over, this time turning the dial in the other direction first. Once you get it to work, DO NOT CLOSE THE DOOR!!! Test it at least five times without looking at the mechanism, looking just at the dial and counting the turns. Put the back cover back on the lock and test it several more times before you even THINK about closing the door.
Don't close the door until you can open it five times in a row without fail. If you want to change the combination, it can be tricky. If there's a small mark at around 11 o'clock on the dial ring and the back cover of the lock has a hole that looks like a diamond with a line extending from one of the points, you can do it yourself with the proper tool which looks like a square Allen wrench with a flag on it. You will need the make and model of the lock (not the safe). Instructions vary but essentially you dial the combination to the small mark, insert and turn the tool, then dial the new combination to the small mark, remove the tool and test it several times to the main mark.
A well-equipped locksmith should be able to get the tool for you. As you may have observed from other replies here, some locksmiths have an attitude about helping people who want to figure things out for themselves, so don't get discouraged.
Online sources may also be able to help. If there is no such line on the dial ring and no hole in the back of the lock, you're better off having a locksmith (a good one who knows safes, not a slim-jim-jockey) do it for you. Probably a lot cheaper if the safe is small enough for you to transport it WITH THE DOOR STILL OPEN to the locksmith. In case you haven't guessed, it would be a very BAD IDEA TO CLOSE THE DOOR until you are certain that you can open the lock multiple times without failure. Links that may help: Jay Hennigan 01.05.11 18:24. Is WD a lubricant, or water displacer?
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'Jay Hennigan' wrote in message news:[email protected]. One more thing. Don't even think about lubricating anything or getting a can of WD-40 within aiming distance of the innards of that safe. Teknik mempengaruhi orang lain.
If the operation of the dial and wheels isn't smooth and very repeatable, call a pro. Drbob 01.05.11 20:30. On May 1, 9:40 pm, 'Stormin Mormon' Thank you Jay and notanywhere. One problem with both fixes is that when I removed the back of the combination dial the 3 wheels are attached to a metal spindle connected to the cover plate, there is one attached to the dial mechanism.
All have a the metal piece (not the one alone attached to the dial mech) in a numbered slot and I have spun them and watched them pick the one below it. However I cannot do that while connected to the dial. Even though I have three numbers I am not sure which comes first or how many turns. I have tried the numbers in both directions with a 4L 3R 2L sequence without success. May just have to bite the bullet and take to a safe specialist or locksmith to have it straightened out.
Thanks for all you help, its greatly appreciated. As for the stormin mormon: If you don't have anything intelligent to offer why do you feel people will be amused with your juvenile comments. Are you so lonely that you have to be on MANY DIFFERENT BLOGS to criticize the smallest points?
Perhaps your time would be better spent studying the bible and trying to live up to the examples of the religion you wear on your sleeve. You seem to talk the talk, but I doubt you are up to the walk. Drbob Jay Hennigan 01.05.11 22:19. On 5/1/11 8:30 PM, drbob wrote: Thank you Jay and notanywhere.
One problem with both fixes is that when I removed the back of the combination dial the 3 wheels are attached to a metal spindle connected to the cover plate, there is one attached to the dial mechanism. All have a the metal piece (not the one alone attached to the dial mech) in a numbered slot and I have spun them and watched them pick the one below it.
However I cannot do that while connected to the dial. Even though I have three numbers I am not sure which comes first or how many turns. I have tried the numbers in both directions with a 4L 3R 2L sequence without success. May just have to bite the bullet and take to a safe specialist or locksmith to have it straightened out. Thanks for all you help, its greatly appreciated.
Is there a manufacturer name and/or model number on the lock itself? This would help. And/or take some pictures and post a link.
If you can figure out the relationship between the gates in the wheels and by close examination determine the dialing sequence, you may be able to reduce the total number of trial combinations to 100 or fewer. For example, if you determine that the difference between the numbers is first number +40 = second and second -15 is third, then you can try 0-40-25, 1-41-26, and so on.
Or dial the trial combination, then very carefully remove the back with the wheels without disturbing them, verify that the gates in the wheel pack line up with each other. That lets you know that the numbers are correct with respect to each other but not necessarily with the dial. This is a huge reduction in trial combinations, from one million to 100. Once you get the relationship between the numbers to each other and the number of turns and direction correct by trial and error plus deduction, try adding 10 to each number. Then carefully take the back off again and see if you are closer or farther from alignment with the fence.
Once you get close, add or subtract one from each number. Safe locks are built to relatively tight tolerances. If you are one digit off on any number it probably won't open. Typically after you dial all three numbers, you then turn the dial in the opposite direction so that the notch in the drive cam engages and pulls the bolt in. The dial will stop turning, usually near digit '0', when the bolt retracts. To lock, turn in the opposite direction.
Stormin Mormon 02.05.11 7:45. I read this last night, and thought on it. Not sure what to write. There may be a lot of truth in what you write.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus. 'drbob' wrote in message news:36d83171-86c3-4ba9-b3e7-aa6f5327bfcb@c41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com.
As for the stormin mormon: If you don't have anything intelligent to offer why do you feel people will be amused with your juvenile comments. Are you so lonely that you have to be on MANY DIFFERENT BLOGS to criticize the smallest points?
Perhaps your time would be better spent studying the bible and trying to live up to the examples of the religion you wear on your sleeve. You seem to talk the talk, but I doubt you are up to the walk. Drbob [email protected] 02.05.11 21:29 [email protected] 04.03.13 10:17. IM NEEDING A SOURCE FOR GETTING NEW GRAPHICS FOR MY LARGE DOUBLE DOOR HERRING HALL MARVIN SAFE IM IN THE PROCESS OF RESORTING I HAVE BLASTED THE SAFE AND PRIMED IT AND THEN USED FILLER TO SMOOTH IT OUT THEY DID NOT CARE ABOUT SMOOTH METAL WHEN THIS SADE WAS BUILD AND GETTING IT SMOOTH HAS BEEN A JOB. BUT I CAN NOT MAKE OUT THE GRAPHICS ON THE OUT SIDE OF FRONT DOORS AND ON THE INSIDE DOUBLE DOORS I CAN GET A PARTIAL DESIGN BUT BUT HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANYONE THAT CAN MAKE THEM FOR ME. ANY HELP IN THIS MATTER WOULD BE GREAT I NEED SOME HELP.
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